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#52Ancestors 2020 Post 12 – Fun Ancestor Assignment
Posted by Caroll in 52 Ancestors, Genealogy Blog on April 14, 2020
Kendall Prince posted a fun exercise to do on the Facebook Group, The Genealogy Squad. I thought it would be interesting to post my responses as part of the #52Ancestors Challenge.
Who is your oldest ancestor you know of? Philip Hulse (1515-1580) Marbury, Cheshire, England. The line allegedly goes back to the 1300’s.
Who is the oldest ancestor you actually have memories of? My Second great-grandmother, Mabel L. Roll Baumgartel, nee Pittman (1889-1972). I remember visiting her in Tampa, Florida, in 1969. As I entered the house, the living room was dark. I didn’t notice her sitting in the corner. She scared the bejezzus out of me.
Which ancestor died the youngest? Josephine K. Pittman, nee Woodburn (1872-1893). Married at 12 years of age, she had her first child at 15. She died six months after her third child was born.
Borden (Bob) H. Baumgartel, Jr and his sister, Olive A. Howes (Roll) a/k/a Alma Roll.
Which ancestor lived the longest? As of April 9, 2020; my half-great uncle Borden (Bob) H. Baumgartel (1922-2019).
Which ancestor has your favorite First name? There are several female ancestors with the name Adelaide, Adeline, or Ada.
Which ancestor has the most interesting job? Borden Baumgartel, Senior (1897-1944). Prior to and during the first World War he was a Western Union courier.
Which ancestor has your favorite surname? Roll. My mother added the extra ‘l’ to my given name as a nod to my grandmother’s maiden name “Roll.”
Which ancestor was born the farthest from where you are now? My great grandparents, Adam Budny and Marianna Borucka were born near Mamino, Poland; 5,145 miles by airplane from my current city.
Which ancestor had the most children? Several of my ancestors had ten each.
Which ancestor do you think lived the most interesting life? My uncle Douglas E. Howes. He was a mechanic in the Air Force. Opened a garage in Wayne, Michigan. Eventually moved to Gallup, New Mexico in the mid-1950’s. Initiated the first ambulance service in Gallup. He loved to fly and eventually bought his own plane.
I remember him flying from Gallup to the Port Elgin airstrip in Ontario, Canada in the early 1970’s. My family owned a cottage at Inverhuron Beach, Ontario. Uncle Doug came up to visit his mother, Olive Roll Howes. My mother, Shirley, said that Uncle Doug and his friend were quite broke when they flew up here. When he went back to Gallup, he built his auto parts store into a thriving business.
#52Ancestors: Week 5 – Plowing Through Snow or Cornfields
Posted by Caroll in 52 Ancestors on February 1, 2015
This is week five of the 2015 #52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge where a group of u
s blog about a different ancestor for each week of the year. To learn more about the 52 Ancestor Challenge visit Amy Johnson’s site at Amy’s website.
This week’s theme is Plowing Through. Whether it is plowing through snow, not likely here in the Pacific Northwest. The last snow I saw was two inches back around Thanksgiving. Or, plowing through online databases trying to find records about your ancestors. I chose to post a couple of family photos of shoveling snow and those turning up the earth.
Plowing through Snow
My grandfather Hugh A. Howes (1902-1961) is shoveling snow in front of the family home on Bennett street in Dearborn, MI. The date listed on the back in on the back says. This is most likely the first winter back in Michigan. The family owned the house in the mid-1940’s. My great Uncle Borden (Bob) Baumgartel and his wife Doris lived in the house for a period when my grandparents moved to Florida around 1945.
My grandparents along with my mother only stayed a couple of years in Florida and returned to Michigan. By this time, Hugh’s oldest sons were either married or serving in the military and would not have been home to shovel the snow.
Hugh A. Howes shoveling snow in 1949
The photograph shows that there are not many houses on the street. These tracts were once farmland and the west side of Dearborn was growing quickly. The photo graph below is a screen capture of Google Maps (2011), showing a view of Bennett street. The house was sold about 1957. With all their children out of the house, they moved into a apartment.
Google Map view of Bennett street
Turn up the earth of with a plow
Below are photos of two great uncles on the Pittman side of the family. Hugh Pittman (right photo) is using a hand plow to turn over the dirt in the cornfields. The photos were taken in the early 1940’s. The Pittman family was living on Park street in Central City, Kentucky, per the 1940 Census.
Left photo – Clarence Pittman ||| Right – Hugh Pittman and Hugh O. Howes (young boy)
Clarence and Hugh Pittman, though in there mid-30’s, were still living with their father, John T. Pittman, subject of the 2014 series of 52 Ancestors – No. 9. Their brother, Finis, and their sister Tena and her husband were also living on the farm. The family suffered economic hardship during the 1930’s Great Depression.
#52 Ancestors – No. 12 – The start of the Roll surname
This post is number 12 in the series of the 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge where a group of us blog about a different ancestor for each week of the year. The learn more about the 52 Ancestor Challenge visit Amy’s website.
The extra “l” in my first name, Caroll, came from my grandmother’s “Roll” surname. It was my mother’s way of paying homage to the family name. I wrote about Oliver Cromwell Roll in in #52 Ancestors post #7. The Roll name is a variation of “Rol” and comes from my 8th great-grandfather is, Jan Mangelsen (Rol).
Jan Mangelsen came from the Netherlands (Holland) to New Amsterdam (New York) in the mid-1650’s. His name, Mangelsen, is a Dutch patronymic meaning, Jan, son of Mangels. It is alleged that Jan’s father or grandfather was a Burgomaster named Jan Mangels of Rol. Surnames were not common in the past, they became a necessity to distinguish who was who as populations grew. People of wealth or status were the first to start passing down last names to their children.
Jan Mangelsen children started to use a variant of “Rol” as their last names. Some of the variations include, Roll, Rol, Ral or Rall, Rool. Later descendents use Mangelrol as a last name. My branch settled on “Roll”.
My Roll Lineage
Jan MANGELSEN & Tryntje Pieters VAN WOGGELUM
→Mangel Jansen ROL & Annetje Hendriex VOLCX / VOLCK/ VOLKERTS
→→Jan Mangelse ROLL & Altje BAS
→→→Johannes ROLL & Mary NEVIS
→→→→Michael ROLL & Christina VOUGHT (VAUGHT)
→→→→→Isaac ROLL & Elizabeth Wier
→→→→→→David W. ROLL & Catherine Traylor GUY
→→→→→→→Oliver C. ROLL & Mabel PITTMAN
→→→→→→→→Olive ROLL & Hugh HOWES
My great-grandfather Oliver C. Roll did not have sons. My first name is the last remnant of the this twig.
#52 Ancestors – No. 11 – William Hammond
Posted by Caroll in Uncategorized on March 16, 2014
This post is number 11 in the series of the 52 Ancestors in 52 Weeks Challenge where a group of us blog about a different ancestor for each week of the year.
My first ancestor to arrive in North America was my 10th great grandfather, William Hammond (1575-1662). He left Bristol, England aboard the ship “Lyon” in 1631 for the Massachusetts Bay Colony. He made several trips back and forth to England to bring his family to the new world. His daughter, Elizabeth Hammond arrived a few months before her future husband, Samuel House (Howes), in 1634.
Disclaimer
I have not done a detail research on William Hammond. My search has been limited to the Pioneers of Massachusetts and/or The New England Historical and Genealogical Register.
I did come across a very interesting blog by Jeanie Roberts on William Hammond’s life history. Jeanie writes The Family Connection. Click on William Hammond to read her post on the Hammond family. Even back in the early 1600’s, people were fleeing bankruptcy, taking a risky chance for a new start. I need to check with Jeanie to see where we may be related or if there is a DNA match between us.
William died in 1662 at Watertown, Massachusetts. He and his wife, Elizabeth Paine, outlived most of their children. I am descended through his daughter Elizabeth Hammond.
Bits of Thread
William Hammond was from Lavenham, Suffolk, England. Lavenham was part of the wool trade that brought riches to England in the 15th & 16th centuries. Unfortunately, the linen and wool trade industry collapsed around 1600. Facing ruin, loss of jobs, many individuals and families to left Old England for “New England” in the early-mid 1600’s.
The manor of Lavenham existed before the Norman Conquest. The manor was once owned by Aubrey de Vere (the first) in 1086. Later in history, this de Vere family line became the Earls of Oxford. Allegedly, de Vere is the origin of the family name “Weir”. Bill Weir states in his article on the Weir Family name that a descendent of Aubrey de Vere pledged his allegiance to Scotland in the 1100’s.
I am also descended from a family of Scots-Irish Weir’s on my mother’s side. Could it be possible that my family tree intertwines in Lavenham? Maybe all these threads can be woven into a tapestry of my lineage.
#52 Ancestors – No. 8 – Alma Jeanette Hartley
This post is number 8 in the series of the 52 Ancestors Challenge where we blog about a different ancestor for each week of the year.
Alma Jeanette Hartley is the alleged adoptive mother of Borden Hays Baumgartel, Sr. I blogged about Borden in post six of this series. Borden is the second husband to my great-grandmother, Mabel L. (Pittman) Roll. Alma Hartley was born in New Albany Township, Indiana, in 1872. Here parents were James Madison Hartley and Maria Jane Lewis. She had four sisters and one brother.
Alma marries Lawson V. Baumgartel on 28 December 1897. Eight months after the marriage, their son, Henry Madison Baumgartel, was born on 7 August 1898. Two more children follow, a son, Earl, in 1901; and a daughter, Pearl in 1903. Borden, Sr birth date is, 7 October 1897, two months before Alma and Lawson get married.
Unfortunately, Lawson dies just five days after Pearl is born in March 1903. In October 1904, Alma marries Robert W. Samuels. There is a New Albany Tribune newspaper record of their divorce in 1906. However, both are still enumerated as husband and wife on the 1910 Census. Alma Samuels is listed in the 1911 Louisville City Directory. Robert is not with her or at the same address. By 1915, she reverts back to using Baumgartel as her last name as recorded in the Louisville, Ky city directories.
Alma owns a boarding house in Louisville by 1920. She marries one of her boarders, Harvey Samuel West prior to their enumeration on the 1930 Census. Harvey dies in 1931. Alma passes away in 1939 and is buried next or with her first husband, Lawson Baumgartel.
So is Borden Baumgartel, Senior, adopted?
Our ancestors were good at fudging dates. Back dating a marriage date was common to include a child born before the actual wedding. Alma and Lawson could have done the same when the census taker came around in 1900. However, Borden has the words “adopted grandson” entered on his line in the census. They made a statement indicating he was adopted.
Pregnancy Math 101 – We all know how long human gestation is right?
Possible, yes. Likely, no. I going to state, that Borden is not Alma’s biological child. If Alma waited til her wedding night to have marital relations, son Henry, would arrive nine months later, not eight. Maybe Henry was early, or if he was a 9 1/2 month baby, we can figure out Lawson and Alma didn’t wait until their wedding night to co-mingle. If Borden is Alma’s son, yes it is plausible that she got pregnant (with Henry) four to six weeks after giving birth to Borden.
It appears Henry was named after Lawson’s father, Henry R. Baumgartel (1835 -1916). If Borden is their son, why didn’t he get his grandfather’s name. The name Borden does not appear in the Hartley line. My research so far has not turned up a prior marriage for either Alma or Lawson. I also checked to see if any of the Hartley or Baumgartel siblings had a child they couldn’t care for that Alma and Lawson took in. No luck in that.
If Borden’s name is a clue, then his birth parents last names could be Borden or Hays. Borden, Sr’s son John changed his last name to Borden because there is a story that was the original birth name. And, Borden was easier than try to spell Baumgartel and Borden wasn’t a German sounding name in the 1940’s. I tried looking for marriages and births using the last names Borden and Hays with no luck finding a match. Borden is a common name in Indiana.
Borden, Sr’s birth certificate was issued as a delayed birth certificate. The information was supported by Alma’s sister Clara Hartely Biesel, in 1941. Alma passed away in 1939 and obviously couldn’t provide information. There is another family story that Borden was the son of a Jewish couple and that his adoptive parents were not going to raise the child in the Jewish faith. Well the Baumgartels and Hartley’s were not members of the Jewish faith. Lawson died when Borden was five, so I doubt the story started there. I don’t believe his step father Robert Samuels was of the Jewish faith. That leaves Harvey West, but he comes into the picture too late in being a parent figure to Borden.
Alma and Laswon lived briefly in Louisville just after their wedding. Borden, Sr, and Henry were both born in Louisville. I also looked for people with the last name Borden or Hays that may have lived near Alma and Lawson. Using a theory that they adopted a neighbor’s child, I found no clues. A Baumgartel cousin, Glenn Vogedes; wasn’t able to find a court record or other information on an adoption when he was searching either.
Was there an orphan train that come through the area at this time, a family friend in trouble, or a mother who died in childbirth and left a son behind. I don’t know, is there a document yet to be discovered? Or, will this mystery need to be solved by DNA genetics?
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